2021 Football Schedule

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PNG 2021 football schedule

Date Opponent Time

8/27 Jasper 7:30 p.m.

9/3 Beaumont United 7:30 p.m.


9/10 Tomball 7 p.m.

9/24 *Nederland 7:30 p.m.

10/1 *Dayton 7:30 p.m.

10/8 *Barbers Hill 7:30 p.m.

10/15 *Kingwood Park 7 p.m.

10/22 *Crosby 7:30 p.m.

10/29 *Texas City 7:30 p.m.


11/5 *Santa Fe 7:30 p.m.

 
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1989NDN

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Three opportunities to see the Indians around the Houston area...@ Tomball, @ Kingwood Park, and @ Santa Fe. Maybe the game @ Dayton, too? PN-G gets nederland, BH, and Crosby at home. The schedule sets up for a run at the DC. Thanks for posting.

Go Indians. Peace.
 

HJJ97NDN

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I think just like the last few years the top 4 will be the same, but in what order who knows. This year I believe the teams will be closer together as far as talent, its gonna come down to how hard they work in the summer and who wants it more.
 

NDNzeke

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I think just like the last few years the top 4 will be the same, but in what order who knows. This year I believe the teams will be closer together as far as talent, its gonna come down to how hard they work in the summer and who wants it more.
I’m optimistic about 2021. I think Crippen is gonna be a good one and hopeful that we will finally get some defensive improvements.
 

IndianFan

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I’m still waiting for the next great running back to step up. Since 2009 PNG’s offensive scheme usually had a high production back to balance out record setting passing games. That has not been the case since 2019. Add a stout defense and the Indians can run the table in district.

A back from the mold of Josh Cook, Caleb Harmon, even Roschon Johnson who consistently runs with good speed and POWER will give the opposition fits.
 

Usedtocould

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I personally miss the old days of “downhill” deep “i” formation (Carthage) but I think it’s gone at least from some systems.
 

IndianFan

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Coach Ethridge established the power I at PNG in 73 and it was in place through the Burnett years. Before that it was the wishbone. Those teams relied on having good backs, play action passing, and an offensive line that executed with precision to overcome lack of size. The playbook was not large. Opposing teams knew what was coming at them, just not where it would hit them.

I could be wrong but I don’t t think today’s offensive lines execute like they did in the past. Maybe it’s the size difference and level of athleticism. I don’t know.
 

1989NDN

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The Ethridge teams had OLs that could move...they used quick feet, angles, leverage, and having multiple blockers at the point of attack. On the 200-series sweeps, 300-series sweeps/counters, and on the traps, they had OL kids that could move laterally and get up the field. I'm not sure much of that is taught in the era of the spread and zone blocking systems. No idea? Maybe it just looks different after 40 or 50 years? Do we have one or two RBs in the program that can move the chains?
 

IndianFan

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PNGs current scheme is still run heavy, or at least 50/50 with the pass, and commonly pulls guards or tackles. But I don’t recognize the same level of execution with completing the blocks which we all know is critical to open gaps for the run.

Historically, with a few exceptions, a typical PNG back is not going to outrun or out quick a fast defense making it critical to scheme and get a numbers advantage.

In the ‘old days’ film and scouting would have confirmed to an opponent that PNG was going to run 126, 147, 226, 228, 332, 743, etc from the I formation throughout the game, often running a play until it could be stopped.

Without exceptional offensive line execution that would have been difficult. Ethridge focused on becoming the best at what we do and daring them to stop it. In the 70s if an opponent loaded up or stunted to stop the inside running of Brown, Garcia, Shipley, etc, Buchanan, Green, Eicher, Copeland or others would take a pitchout around the end.

Ironically those old PNG lines were typically undersized but often as quick as a running back. That agility combined with excellent technique and a very mean streak made them imposing despite their physical stature. Facing a larger opponent was often not a concern.

Fast forward to today and I’m not sure the I formation would work as well unless blocking execution improved.
 

NDNzeke

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I doubt that the kids at PNG are less capable either physically or mentally of executing on the OL than they were during the Ethridge years. Consequently, the best explanation to me seems to be a lack of emphasis on that aspect of the offense. Although this is probably to some degree related to the offensive schemes that are currently dominant, the best teams apparently manage to emphasize it enough in spite of those same schemes. This issue probably also relates to the lack of dominant running backs the last few years, as my observation has been that more often than not lately there is not much open space available and runners (including RJ) have had to rely on some combination of speed or power to be successful. Even a slight improvement in this area would significantly improve our running game IMO.
 

NDNzeke

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I agree that the I formation would not add anything to our running success unless the blocking execution improves. I think the scheme that is used is probably less important than appropriate emphasis on fundamentals, along with appropriate game planning. BTW, the same could be said about the need for improvement in our pass protection. Seldom will we have someone with the level of talent (e.g., RJ) necessary to counteract any deficiencies in this area.
 

IndianFan

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I doubt that the kids at PNG are less capable either physically or mentally of executing on the OL than they were during the Ethridge years. Consequently, the best explanation to me seems to be a lack of emphasis on that aspect of the offense. Although this is probably to some degree related to the offensive schemes that are currently dominant, the best teams apparently manage to emphasize it enough in spite of those same schemes. This issue probably also relates to the lack of dominant running backs the last few years, as my observation has been that more often than not lately there is not much open space available and runners (including RJ) have had to rely on some combination of speed or power to be successful. Even a slight improvement in this area would significantly improve our running game IMO.

I agree but offensive lineman today often carry more weight and possess less agility than those lean, mean warriors of the past. If you can’t get on and stay on a defender then it doesn’t matter how big you are. But again there are always exceptions achieved with rigorous offseason training.
 

pngfanatic

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I share your sentiments about the O linemen of today, but maybe I can shed some light ...

My son recently played offensive tackle for Jesuit HS here in Tampa. Their spread offense was very run-oriented, but the blocking techniques they were teaching seemed very passive to me. They almost never came off the snap aggressively, i.e low with drive blocking. So I asked a couple of the coaches about their blocking strategy. They said that they coached the O lineman to stand up whether run or pass blocking. If it's a running play, the lineman move forward as a unit, shielding the runner and allowing him to pick a hole to run through. More of an interference technique than blocking. This worked pretty well for Jesuit because they usually had quick runners behind a massive line.

For a pass play, they move backwards again as a unit, not allowing any seams for the pass rushers. This is why they really value large lineman who are not necessarily super mobile. My son was 6'4" and 300+lbs by his senior year and not a real aggressive player (pretty much the opposite of me in size and temperament :)). But he was exactly what the Jesuit coaches were looking for.

After the coaches' explanation, I started looking more closely at the line play in high school and college games and it seems to confirm what they were saying. In general, the teams running the spread are using a blocking scheme similar to Jesuit. The only teams where I see the line really coming off the ball like the good old days are the ones running the wishbone.
 

1989NDN

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I think if Coach Ethridge or Coach Troy had to teach that spread offense OL technique, they would throw up. Coach Troy required his OL to move, use technique, hit you, drive you, and get you on the ground. I can remember Coach Troy saying find someone with a different color jersey and drive him into the ground. When he gets up, hit him again.
 

IndianFan

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Schemes change but fundamentals don’t. The lack of fundamentals being taught to offensive linemen has actually been a huge problem even for the NFL. The proliferation of spread type offenses at lower levels has resulted in a decline in skill levels of draft worthy offensive linemen. NFL coaches are having to teach them. That’s what we notice on the field and are talking about. Easy to spot. If the defensive man is not being blocked out of the play it’s not working.
 

Usedtocould

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Different subject but if anyone wants to see an electric HS baseball game tonight (was last night) check out Texarkana Gameday Liberty Eylau plays cross town Pleasant grove for the regional championship in 4a Region 2 (neutral game played in TXK almost never happens) the broadcast isn’t up to par with their football games but is cool for HE baseball. was a great game last night.
 

Usedtocould

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I understand if I’m keeping to the letter of the law I get it - but thought I would share with a current group that’s engaging currently.
 

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