A Proud Indian's Opinion

Purple Rain

Active Member
I am a product of PNGISD. I was privileged to wear the Purple & White football uniform and was lucky enough to receive a football scholarship and get a college degree. I’ll always be indebted to PNGISD, I love PNG – the Honor, Pride and Tradition and everything that PNG stands for. There is something special in this District that very, very few others can come close to matching. We are known statewide for the massive fan support for our football team.
I’ve said all of this for one reason: I think last week, some of our fans didn’t have all the information about the choice of stadiums for our game with Brenham and crossed the line by sending some pretty “abrasive” emails and phone calls to the Brenham Superintendent and Head Coach. I understand the main theme was that they were trying to “limit” our fan support by basically forcing us to play in a 10,000 seat stadium and this tactic would backfire on them.
I read the article in the Brenham Banner newspaper that was posted on this site. It seems the Brenham coach used these emails to his advantage by posting them in their locker room for all the players to read. In my day, we used to call this “Bulletin Board Material”. One team’s players would “run-down, disrespect, or insult” the others team’s players in the newspapers the week before the game was played. I remember we were playing state ranked TJ one week and PNG was a huge underdog. Flyers were printed and distributed and a newspaper article carried their slogan of the week: Come Friday night and see TJ’s “have no mercy” defense vs. PNG’s “Lawd have mercy” defense. I can’t tell you how demeaning it was to us and how dis-respected we felt. Our coaches put these flyers and newspaper articles in the fieldhouse and we had to look at them every day before and after practice. By Friday night’s game, we had extra incentive to give 150% to prove them wrong. We won the game 26-24. From this morning’s article in the Brenham paper about last night’s game, it’s evident that they felt under-estimated and disrespected by the emails from “arrogant” PNG fans.
Is this the reason we lost the game? I don’t know. What I do know is that sometimes when two athletic, evenly matched teams are playing, any slight advantage by whatever means could be the difference. I know we have the best fans in the state, but let’s be careful in the future not to let a few zealous fans, with good intentions, possibly give our opponents any slight advantage that can hurt our Indians.
 

NDNmom91

1,000+ Posts
I really think what they were referring to in the article were the comments by "png fans" on another message board. Now, if it turns out it WAS emails from our fans they were referring to, then I hope the people that sent those emails are happy now! We were all upset about the stadium choice and a lot of rumors and speculation were flying around but I hope to God none of our people sent derogitory emails before getting the facts, that would be a shame :nono:! Of course, it is a shame also for the Brenham team to get their "motivation" from anything "fans" say...or anything posted on message boards by "cyber bullies" and "laptop coaches"! I know where our boys motivation comes from and it's in their hearts! However, it was very nice of Brenham to give US some bulletin board material for next year...mighty kind of you boys ;D!
 

NONS81

Guest
I heard talk of these rumors while spending the night in front of the admin building to get tickets. But one young man came to get in line with us and told us that he had just come from the Booster Club meeting and that these rumors were not true and that in fact, the Brenham coach had offered seats on their side of the stadium, in the grassy areas (the knolls) and anywhere we could be fitted in, then the article came out in the PA News about "why" we had to play at Aldine, this was because this was the only "for sure" stadium that we could get due to all the other games being played on Friday night and we played on Friday night to be courtious to Brenham, who also had kids playing in volleyball playoffs, this was so that parents did not have to choose which kid to go see. From the looks of the fans that showed up from Brenham, some simply chose to stay home...

Hopefully, these emails are a rumor also and were possibly created by Brenham fans instead of PNG fans. However, I did hear talk along the same lines of what the Brenham tried to do and not do...
 

15PNG

500+ Posts
Purple Rain said:
I am a product of PNGISD. I was privileged to wear the Purple & White football uniform and was lucky enough to receive a football scholarship and get a college degree. I’ll always be indebted to PNGISD, I love PNG – the Honor, Pride and Tradition and everything that PNG stands for. There is something special in this District that very, very few others can come close to matching. We are known statewide for the massive fan support for our football team.
I’ve said all of this for one reason: I think last week, some of our fans didn’t have all the information about the choice of stadiums for our game with Brenham and crossed the line by sending some pretty “abrasive” emails and phone calls to the Brenham Superintendent and Head Coach. I understand the main theme was that they were trying to “limit” our fan support by basically forcing us to play in a 10,000 seat stadium and this tactic would backfire on them.
I read the article in the Brenham Banner newspaper that was posted on this site. It seems the Brenham coach used these emails to his advantage by posting them in their locker room for all the players to read. In my day, we used to call this “Bulletin Board Material”. One team’s players would “run-down, disrespect, or insult” the others team’s players in the newspapers the week before the game was played. I remember we were playing state ranked TJ one week and PNG was a huge underdog. Flyers were printed and distributed and a newspaper article carried their slogan of the week: Come Friday night and see TJ’s “have no mercy” defense vs. PNG’s “Lawd have mercy” defense. I can’t tell you how demeaning it was to us and how dis-respected we felt. Our coaches put these flyers and newspaper articles in the fieldhouse and we had to look at them every day before and after practice. By Friday night’s game, we had extra incentive to give 150% to prove them wrong. We won the game 26-24. From this morning’s article in the Brenham paper about last night’s game, it’s evident that they felt under-estimated and disrespected by the emails from “arrogant” PNG fans.
Is this the reason we lost the game? I don’t know. What I do know is that sometimes when two athletic, evenly matched teams are playing, any slight advantage by whatever means could be the difference. I know we have the best fans in the state, but let’s be careful in the future not to let a few zealous fans, with good intentions, possibly give our opponents any slight advantage that can hurt our Indians.

AMEN! I too wore the purple and white on the field. Excellent post and all VERY true. Lesson learned for some fans I hope. Let's do what we do well. Because the trash talking isn't good for anything. It pissed me off to see what that kid said. If I were the coach I'd have rung his neck. We've always walked tall with heart and class, so let's not screw that up now. Can't wait for next season.
 

PNG Proud

2,500+ Posts
Staff member
I also remember several yrs ago when Mike Shanahan was coaching the Denver Broncos in the Super Bowl. Denver was the obvious underdog, and the coaches and players did in the weeks leading up to the game was to sing praises about the opposing team. They talked about how great they were, and how it was just an honor to be able to play in such a prestigious game with such a great team...and on and on. The results? Denver whipped the snot out of them. The entire thing was just a charade to keep the other team thinking they were better. But the whole time, the Broncos were fired up inside.

Personally, I disagree with all that trash talk. To argue stats and records and things like that are fine, but to degrade another team, IMO, is out of line, and in this case, it came back to bite us. If all that was said in the article was true, then, we deserved what we got. Hopefully we'll learn something.
 

badndn

500+ Posts
Folks don't forget that it is very easy to create a new username and pose as a fan of the opposing team to create "bulletin board material". Several Brenham fans did that on the SETX site!

Every week every team will have some overzealous fan that posts something that could be used as "bulletin board material". It is just a fact of life with the internet now. So in fairness, if Brenham needs it to win each week, then they will get it each week!
I call BS on it personaly. If you can't get up for a playoff game without some bulletin board BS, then you really were not the better team anyway. If you go look you will notice that many fans outside of the GT didn't give PNG any respect going up against Brenham last week (some from Brenham). Didn't hear our guys yapping about it! I can guarantee that Angleton fans will talk crap on Brenham this week on message boards. Will see how that plays out for the Cubbies. ::)
 

Purple Rain

Active Member
badndn said:
Folks don't forget that it is very easy to create a new username and pose as a fan of the opposing team to create "bulletin board material". Several Brenham fans did that on the SETX site!

Every week every team will have some overzealous fan that posts something that could be used as "bulletin board material". It is just a fact of life with the internet now. So in fairness, if Brenham needs it to win each week, then they will get it each week!
I call BS on it personaly. If you can't get up for a playoff game without some bulletin board BS, then you really were not the better team anyway. If you go look you will notice that many fans outside of the GT didn't give PNG any respect going up against Brenham last week (some from Brenham). Didn't hear our guys yapping about it! I can guarantee that Angleton fans will talk crap on Brenham this week on message boards. Will see how that plays out for the Cubbies. ::)
 

IndianFan

Web Guy
badndn said:
Folks don't forget that it is very easy to create a new username and pose as a fan of the opposing team to create "bulletin board material". Several Brenham fans did that on the SETX site!

Every week every team will have some overzealous fan that posts something that could be used as "bulletin board material". It is just a fact of life with the internet now. So in fairness, if Brenham needs it to win each week, then they will get it each week!
I call BS on it personaly. If you can't get up for a playoff game without some bulletin board BS, then you really were not the better team anyway. If you go look you will notice that many fans outside of the GT didn't give PNG any respect going up against Brenham last week (some from Brenham). Didn't hear our guys yapping about it! I can guarantee that Angleton fans will talk crap on Brenham this week on message boards. Will see how that plays out for the Cubbies. ::)

A couple of Brenham fans registered and posted here as PNG fans.

In 1999 some moron posing as a PNG fan posted race related comments on a statewide message board. That was picked up by a Galveston newspaper and sensationalized. Didn't work... PNG 22, LM 6.
 

MOM2INDIANS

500+ Posts
:helmet: THE 'MY TEAM IS BETTER THAN YOUR TEAM' HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. ITS PRIDE AND SPIRIT FOR YOUR TEAM. I DONT THINK WE DID ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE ON THIS SITE. IF YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR SELF AND YOUR TEAM, THEN NO AMOUNT OF "TRASH TALKING" CAN MAKE YOU FEEL DISRESPECTED. I FIND THAT THE INDIAN PLAYERS ARE A MOST HUMBLE TEAM. AS FOR US FANS...SOMETIMES WE GET A LITTLE CARRIED AWAY.LOL :sorry:
 

PNGROW4650YRDLN

100+ Posts
There is and always will be trash talking by someone. Did the trash talking have anything to do with the outcome - who knows? It's real easy for the Brenham players to say that was their incentive. What would they have said if they had lost? I don't think they would have said that their fans, players, etc. talked more smack to us and that caused us to win. I do not believe that the Brenham team wanted the win any more than we did. We knew going in that they always excel in almost every sport they participate in, football being no exception. They knew we were undefeated. Therefore, no one wants to be the team that has to play catch up. A game is a game. Someone will win and someone will lose. As much as I wanted our team to win, it was not our day. But like some one else said the INDIANS will have their day over the Brenham Cubs and don't be surprised if it's not in 2010. TRAIN HARD 2010 TEAM - REVENGE IS SWEET AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE YOURS OVER THE BRENHAM CUBS!
 

Purple Rain

Active Member
MOM2INDIANS said:
:helmet: THE 'MY TEAM IS BETTER THAN YOUR TEAM' HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. ITS PRIDE AND SPIRIT FOR YOUR TEAM. I DONT THINK WE DID ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE ON THIS SITE. IF YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR SELF AND YOUR TEAM, THEN NO AMOUNT OF "TRASH TALKING" CAN MAKE YOU FEEL DISRESPECTED. I FIND THAT THE INDIAN PLAYERS ARE A MOST HUMBLE TEAM. AS FOR US FANS...SOMETIMES WE GET A LITTLE CARRIED AWAY.LOL :sorry:
You missed my point! I'm not talking about smack talking on this site, I'm talking about emails and phone calls to the Brenham's Supt. and Head Coach from some "over zealous" fans. If you don't think that will give a team an advantage, then ... I could say something, but i won't
 

MOM2INDIANS

500+ Posts
NO NO PURPLERAIN, NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU POSTED, JUST WHAT THEY WERE SAYING ABOUT BEING DISRESPECTED. I AGREE ABOUT TRASH TALK, IT JUST MAKES US LOOK BAD. BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS, TRULY THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN OFFENDED. MAYBE WE SHOULD DRESS UP LIKE CUB NERDS NEXT YEAR.
 

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