Taking a knee

[sittingbull]

Howcome when a player gets hurt on the field every team we have played has taken a knee and we do not. I just think its respectfull to the player that is hurt as well to the other team if we could follow suit. If I think about it we don't even take a knee when one of our own players is down. Just curious...am I being unreasonable?

 

[NDN NATION]

I wondered that same thing.

 

[gpwildcat]

It seems most teams take a knee. GP takes thier helmets off and takes a knee. I sometimes wonder if it is out of respect, or grabbing the opportuniuty to take off the helmets to cool off and rest a little! Maybe some of both?

 

[TheBoysMom]

I was just having this very conversation with some other friends, because I have heard a few people taking issue with the Indians not taking a knee for every injury.

My guess is they're trying to avoid cramping and trying to stay warmed up by moving around, but what do I know?

I did a little research on this subject and found the following article to be very informative regarding this custom:

http://www.modbee.com/2008/11/12/v-print/495792/should-knee-be-taken-for-hurt.html

Should knee be taken for hurt football players?
By Brian VanderBeek
bvanderbeek@modbee.com
last updated: November 12, 2008 11:13:19 AM

The recent collection of letters to the editor and frequent chants from the stands on Friday night seems to make it clear fans are focused on the latest high school football trend: taking a knee when a player is injured.

The genesis of the practice is unclear. It could have come from soccer or football at pee-wee levels, where kids are asked to drop to one knee not so much out of respect but to keep them under control while the coach tends to the injury.

But somewhere along the line, as the players grew out of youth leagues and into high school, the on-field genuflect has come along for the ride.

(more at the link)

 

[TheBoysMom]

I will agree that it can appear somewhat disconcerting to see the Indians milling around while the opposing team takes a knee. It seems there could be some kind of compromise worked out to where PN-G doesn't appear disrespectful in comparison... even though they're not actually disrespecting anyone.

Perhaps a bowed head and clasped hands? IF even that is necessary - I'm really not sure of my opinion on this subject just yet.

 

[IndianFan]

Maybe go to the sideline so what they're doing is not a concern.

 

[ndnsrock44]

Wow. I never took it as any disrespect. Like in the above post, I don't even know what the origin of this is. I don't remember ever taking a knee "back in the day". To me it is disrespectful for the band to be blaring and the crowd making a lot of noise while someone is injured. I think out of respect to the injured player and the trainers attending to him that everyone should try to be silent during an injury. I think we have a lot more to worry about right now. PNG and its fans are the most respectful of the other schools I have seen. We cheer for their band, stand for their school song and are respectful of their cheerleaders and mascots before the game. Unlike nederland, who evidently has made it their tradition to boo our cheerleaders and other schools that mock our Indian Spirit and Cherokee. If I was from nederland I would be ashamed at how their students acted after they beat us this year. I have never heard kids be so nasty and vulgar to opposing fans as they were after the game. So I wouldn't worry too much about our perceived "class" by these schools.

 

[1989NDN]

I don't care take a knee, don't take a knee, go to the sideline, grab some water, whatever ... I am reminded of a PN-G coach's remark (back when I was on the team ... a long time ago) when a player was injured ... the coach said, "Get him off the field, he's killing our grass." Just a little humor. No, the kid from TJ that was hurt was not seriously injured ... it was minor bump or bruise. The PN-G coach (who will remain nameless) was not classless, disrespectful, or a jerk ... he was an old-school coach that cared about kids 24-7-365. But, whenever I see a kid cramping up or laying down after a minor injury, I often think of our coach ... "he's killing our grass; get him up and walk it off."

That said, whatever the trend is, take a knee, huddle-up, go the sideline, etc., no disrepect is meant to an injured player ... PN-G teams and fans are a classy bunch. The Indians and their fans are the Joneses ... in my opinion, other schools are trying to keep up with us, the Joneses. We set standards and others follow. It's been that way for decades ... I don't think we disrespect anyone. Our fans recognize other schools' bands, cheerleaders, players who bounce back from injuries, etc. Bring it up at the Booster Club ... maybe our coaches will implement a procedure when an opposing player is down.

Go Indians. Peace.

 

[PNG Proud]

Maybe go to the sideline so what they're doing is not a concern.

On an official Time Out, some of the refs will not allow the teams to go to the sidelines (or the coaches to come out and huddle with players). At one of our games this yr., the official actually made our players get back onto the field, and separate from the coaches.

 

[pngsup]

I have to say....I was at the Nederland/PNG game this year. Sat on the PNG side and was disgraced at the booing that was going on by PNG fans when Nederland ran out on to the field at the start of the game and after halftime. So, while you think PNG is being respectful think again. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. We were near the student section and during the school song students and adults where talking, sitting,throwing a football back and forth to each other.Kids learn respect from it being modeled and what myself and others were watching was NOTHING along the lines of respect for anyone by adults and teens.

On this subject I have to say I think they should take a knee. I don't care what the origin is...I think it is respectful of the person hurt and those trying to care for them. I also agree that the band should stop playing when a player is hurt from either team. Just my thoughts....

 

[PNG Proud]

Tonight at the BC meeting, coach BF said that taking a knee "Is not football. That's youth soccer". He said that if not taking a knee is seen by some as disrespectful, then, "I'm sorry. We are being respectful in that we're going to clear out and let the trainers work on them. Not taking a knee is not a sign of disrespect". He went on to say that this probably started with youth soccer, and over the yrs. has moved up? But that in every school he has ever coached at, "we never took a knee".


And he's right if you think about it. The pros and college doesn't do it either.


Just reporting...........

 

[TheBoysMom]

Tonight at the BC meeting, coach BF said that taking a knee "Is not football. That's youth soccer". He said that if not taking a knee is seen by some as disrespectful, then, "I'm sorry. We are being respectful in that we're going to clear out and let the trainers work on them. Not taking a knee is not a sign of disrespect". He went on to say that this probably started with youth soccer, and over the yrs. has moved up? But that in every school he has ever coached at, "we never took a knee".


And he's right if you think about it. The pros and college doesn't do it either.


Just reporting...........

Good enough for me!

 

[IBLEEDPURPLE]

Tonight at the BC meeting, coach BF said that taking a knee "Is not football. That's youth soccer". He said that if not taking a knee is seen by some as disrespectful, then, "I'm sorry. We are being respectful in that we're going to clear out and let the trainers work on them. Not taking a knee is not a sign of disrespect". He went on to say that this probably started with youth soccer, and over the yrs. has moved up? But that in every school he has ever coached at, "we never took a knee".


And he's right if you think about it. The pros and college doesn't do it either.


Just reporting...........

Bravo Coach!!!

 

[IndianFan]

He has my support on that. :thumbsup:

 

[Justafan]

Any updates on Easley and Hollier???

 

[MOM2INDIANS]

My son does it in youth soccer....I thinks its mainly to get the kid to be still...if not they would continue playing right over the injured player...they get so excited. The ref had to blow the whistle twice this past weekend to get them to stop and take a knee.

 

[PNG Proud]

Any updates on Easley and Hollier???

Easley has a badly bruised rib.
No mention of Hollier

 

[PNGROW4650YRDLN]

Tonight at the BC meeting, coach BF said that taking a knee "Is not football. That's youth soccer". He said that if not taking a knee is seen by some as disrespectful, then, "I'm sorry. We are being respectful in that we're going to clear out and let the trainers work on them. Not taking a knee is not a sign of disrespect". He went on to say that this probably started with youth soccer, and over the yrs. has moved up? But that in every school he has ever coached at, "we never took a knee".


And he's right if you think about it. The pros and college doesn't do it either.


Just reporting...........

Good enough for me!

Me too !

 

[sittingbull]

Well...I'm not sure I totally agree with Faircloth's reasoning, but then again he's the coach and I'm not. Go INDIANS!!

 

[turn2]

I AGREE WITH BF ABOUT TAKEN A KNEE.ALSO ANOTHER THING HE BROUGHT IN AT THE END OF THE GAME IF YOU NOTICE WE DO NOT LINE UP IN A SINGLE FILE LINE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE TO SHAKE HANDS.WE WALK TO THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.I LIKE IT.