Bob West Article On How Search Is Being Handled By LC-M And PN-G

kfdmcoop

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Port Arthur News

Interesting to see how differently two area school districts have approached disseminating information on the hiring of a new football coach to their patrons and the news media. Little Cypress-Mauriceville, without prodding, released the names of all its applicants. Port Neches-Groves, on the other hand, is refusing to make names available, and has gone so far as to write the Texas Attorney General to try and thwart news media Freedom of Information requests. It’s basically a stalling tactic, although the PNGISD is using the noble ruse of protecting the privacy of applicants. Let’s hope they aren’t trying to keep names secret because their Master’s degree requirement resulted in an underwhelming list of applicants. From what I hear, they’re fishing for a coach they want who didn’t bother to apply. Meantime, I have to think the Texas Attorney General has more important stuff to deal with than helping the PNGISD keep secrets.
 

IndianFan

Administrator
Couldn't care less what the PA News, Bmt. Enterprise, Bob West, or any other journalist thinks. You would think everyone itching to stick their nose in the hiring process had better things to do as well. Especially those that don't live in the district.

Thanks for spreading the hearsay and rumors in the paper Bob.
 

Xcrystalbeachbum

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kfdmcoop said:
Port Arthur News

Interesting to see how differently two area school districts have approached disseminating information on the hiring of a new football coach to their patrons and the news media. Little Cypress-Mauriceville, without prodding, released the names of all its applicants. Port Neches-Groves, on the other hand, is refusing to make names available, and has gone so far as to write the Texas Attorney General to try and thwart news media Freedom of Information requests. It’s basically a stalling tactic, although the PNGISD is using the noble ruse of protecting the privacy of applicants. Let’s hope they aren’t trying to keep names secret because their Master’s degree requirement resulted in an underwhelming list of applicants. From what I hear, they’re fishing for a coach they want who didn’t bother to apply. Meantime, I have to think the Texas Attorney General has more important stuff to deal with than helping the PNGISD keep secrets.

Me thinks he has a point about the Master's degree.....actually he makes a lot of good points.
First time ever that I have agreed with anything he had to say tho....... :hook:
 

Smurf

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kfdmcoop said:
Port Arthur News

Interesting to see how differently two area school districts have approached disseminating information on the hiring of a new football coach to their patrons and the news media. Little Cypress-Mauriceville, without prodding, released the names of all its applicants. Port Neches-Groves, on the other hand, is refusing to make names available, and has gone so far as to write the Texas Attorney General to try and thwart news media Freedom of Information requests. It’s basically a stalling tactic, although the PNGISD is using the noble ruse of protecting the privacy of applicants. Let’s hope they aren’t trying to keep names secret because their Master’s degree requirement resulted in an underwhelming list of applicants. From what I hear, they’re fishing for a coach they want who didn’t bother to apply. Meantime, I have to think the Texas Attorney General has more important stuff to deal with than helping the PNGISD keep secrets.

Has anyone stopped to think that the confidentiality might have been at the request of the applicant(s). A very high profile coach would make this request; not recessarily to protect his current employment but to protect his athletes from rumors. If a coach decides to leave a program, he wants to be the one to break the news to his boys...not the local newspaper. Let the board do their job.

P.S. Bob West's information was inaccurate. Another example of the media printing rumors and hearsay.
 

IndianFan

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I guess you could say he's doing his job by spreading the opinions.

Anyone who is naive enough to think that the media intention is to watch out for the good of PNG, I have some Circuit City stock that I'll sell you at a bargain price. ;D
 
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NDNPARENT

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I like bob west article , it shows how our board and some of the ppl on the PNG communiity are toward evveryone else. makes us look stuck up and that we are better than everyone else, but in the meantime it is making us the laughing stock of the area and state! I for one do not like this attitude that our board is representiing us, we Indians are Humble , respected people that somewhere along the line has changes.


and bob made be right about the secret that our board members hold out cause of thier incapable of making a correct decision.
 

squaw

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NDNPARENT said:
I like bob west article , it shows how our board and some of the ppl on the PNG communiity are toward evveryone else. makes us look stuck up and that we are better than everyone else, but in the meantime it is making us the laughing stock of the area and state! I for one do not like this attitude that our board is representiing us, we Indians are Humble , respected people that somewhere along the line has changes.


and bob made be right about the secret that our board members hold out cause of thier incapable of making a correct decision.
Hooray!!!! There are people with guts that are not afraid to say what is right! Trust me, lots of people in the community are saying the same thing. We all also question what is going on with the hiring "Process". Sure looks flawed to us.
 

pngfan1

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Bob West is a joke. I hope Dr Randall doesn't end up on that same list that Bob has Jerry Jones on. I think since Jerry fired Jimmy Johnson(the hero of Port Arthur who loves it so much he rarely visits)Bob thinks he is the antichrist. ;)
 

NONS81

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Get ready for a horrific weather event, because for the first time in 30 years, I happen to agree with Bob West!!!!!

kfdmcoop - there must be a severe snow storm headed our way due to my agreeing with Bob West - whatcha got on the horizon? ;D
 

kfdmcoop

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Xcrystalbeachbum

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Smurf said:
kfdmcoop said:
Port Arthur News

Interesting to see how differently two area school districts have approached disseminating information on the hiring of a new football coach to their patrons and the news media. Little Cypress-Mauriceville, without prodding, released the names of all its applicants. Port Neches-Groves, on the other hand, is refusing to make names available, and has gone so far as to write the Texas Attorney General to try and thwart news media Freedom of Information requests. It’s basically a stalling tactic, although the PNGISD is using the noble ruse of protecting the privacy of applicants. Let’s hope they aren’t trying to keep names secret because their Master’s degree requirement resulted in an underwhelming list of applicants. From what I hear, they’re fishing for a coach they want who didn’t bother to apply. Meantime, I have to think the Texas Attorney General has more important stuff to deal with than helping the PNGISD keep secrets.

Has anyone stopped to think that the confidentiality might have been at the request of the applicant(s). A very high profile coach would make this request; not recessarily to protect his current employment but to protect his athletes from rumors. If a coach decides to leave a program, he wants to be the one to break the news to his boys...not the local newspaper. Let the board do their job.

P.S. Bob West's information was inaccurate. Another example of the media printing rumors and hearsay.

Well do you have the facts to prove Bob West's article is inaccurate and is hearsay and rumor or are you just speculating?

And it is real simple, just release the list and tada!. No more speculating on the rumors and hearsay.



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Smurf

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squaw said:
NDNPARENT said:
I like bob west article , it shows how our board and some of the ppl on the PNG communiity are toward evveryone else. makes us look stuck up and that we are better than everyone else, but in the meantime it is making us the laughing stock of the area and state! I for one do not like this attitude that our board is representiing us, we Indians are Humble , respected people that somewhere along the line has changes.


and bob made be right about the secret that our board members hold out cause of thier incapable of making a correct decision.
Hooray!!!! There are people with guts that are not afraid to say what is right! Trust me, lots of people in the community are saying the same thing. We all also question what is going on with the hiring "Process". Sure looks flawed to us.


Voicing an opinion against the School Board's decision has nothing to do with guts; It's an uninformed opinion on the matter...comparable to voting for a candidate without knowing the issues at hand. And before you go there, the issue at hand is not whether or not the school board should be following the FOIA, but whether requests by applicants for anonymity should be honored. I doubt very seriously the school board's decision has anything to do with hiding the candidates from the community. As for the surrounding area, I could care less what they think of our process. We need to do whatever it takes and whatever is requested of us by potential candidates to retain the most talented AD/HC possible. If it takes confidentiality...so be it. I have a feeling the candidates that we have may be a little more high profile than LCM, hence the silence.

Judging from your previous posts, you obviously have some personal vendetta against the school board or some of its members. Do us all a favor and take your opinions to another board. I have lived in this community for seven years and the only truly negative and hateful things I have heard regarding our school board are from your posts.

As for your "lots of people in the community are saying the same thing" comment, I'm not sure what part of Port Neches you live in, but the opinions are obviously much different than in my neighborhood community. I am starting to wonder what side of Hwy 73 you live on....

Sometimes the uneducated voice of public opinion bites itself in the ass fighting against the very people trying to preserve it.
 

Xcrystalbeachbum

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"Sometimes the uneducated voice of public opinion bites itself in the ass fighting against the very people trying to preserve it."

So wrong on so many different levels, I sure hope you are not a PNG High School graduate............too funny.
 

Justafan

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Amen Smurf, couldn't had said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just wait, you'll hear back that your a outsider and you probally don't fit in comment like I did since you've only lived here 7 yrs and shouldn't have any rights like she does ........lol
 

Justafan

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Xcrystalbeachbum said:
"Sometimes the uneducated voice of public opinion bites itself in the ass fighting against the very people trying to preserve it."

So wrong on so many different levels, I sure hope you are not a PNG High School graduate............too funny.

See what I mean, if you didn't graduate from PNG you have no right to comment on anything. That is the belief of so many, and that is whats wrong with our district today.......The good ole boy system, who ya know and who ya went to school with. That is why this district is 20 yrs behind the better programs because of beliefs and idiot comments like that.
 

Xcrystalbeachbum

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Justafan said:
Xcrystalbeachbum said:
"Sometimes the uneducated voice of public opinion bites itself in the ass fighting against the very people trying to preserve it."

So wrong on so many different levels, I sure hope you are not a PNG High School graduate............too funny.

See what I mean, if you didn't graduate from PNG you have no right to comment on anything. That is the belief of so many, and that is whats wrong with our district today.......The good ole boy system, who ya know and who ya went to school with. That is why this district is 20 yrs behind the better programs because of beliefs and idiot comments like that.

Wow, Justafan-talk about jumping to conclusions. I never said that smurf did not have a right to voice an opinion, I just hope he/she is not representive of the graduates coming out of PNG. The reason I said this is because the last sentence makes absolutely no sense to me at all, just like the rest of his/her comments.
And if you think "That is why this district is 20 yrs behind the better programs because of beliefs and idiot comments like that", I think you need to look no further than the head coach and school board of trustees.
Regardless of the outcome on the FOI request, I think most want the best coach we can get. PNG is in my blood till the day I die.
 

Justafan

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It is nothing personal against you X, it is some comments made by some on here that if you haven't lived her 40 yrs or more you have no rights.

Nothing personal against you. sorry!!
 

Justafan

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I do blame the head coach and the school board, but not just the school board now I blame the school board 20 yrs ago before the "Robin Hood". Most of the schools and facilities should've been updated 20 yrs ago. What did they spend the money on then? PNE should've been torn down 30 yrs ago.
 

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