Final: PN-G Indians 37, Montgomery Bears 31

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Bingo!! And the offense isn’t hard to solve since it’s a Middle School offense. I understand keeping it simple but damn, it is so predictable and uncreative. When fans in the stands know the plays based on formation, I’m pretty sure the opposing coaching staff knows them as well.
That's the kind of offense you get with a "rookie OC." We need to go shopping for an aggressive, creative one in the offseason.
 

IndianFan

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I bet coaches are hard at work, including the OC to adjust things. Wouldn’t be surprised if some things change quickly. Putting Wuenschel back there is a great indication of more to come. A ‘power’ back who can throw on top of that. And as athletic as he is, he can catch the ball too. The opposing defensive coordinator will have a lot more to plan for.

At the end of the day the offense is NOT completely broken. Just need to mix things up a bit and take full advantage of the weapons. Coaches will figure out the plan.
 

RainyTX

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I bet coaches are hard at work, including the OC to adjust things. Wouldn’t be surprised if some things change quickly. Putting Wuenschel back there is a great indication of more to come. A ‘power’ back who can throw on top of that. And as athletic as he is, he can catch the ball too. The opposing defensive coordinator will have a lot more to plan for.

At the end of the day the offense is NOT completely broken. Just need to mix things up a bit and take full advantage of the weapons. Coaches will figure out the plan.
Gotta figure out a way to get the ball in Eli Washington’s hands. He’s too fast to be used solely on special teams. There’s one thing you can’t coach and that’s speed, he’s got plenty of it.
 

1989NDN

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Can’t catch…hand the ball to him on the stretch and hit the gas. Or try a jet sweep with him. Just tell him to hit the gas and go. All gas, no brakes. Need a creative OC to find a way to get him the ball in open space.
 

RainyTX

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Can’t catch…hand the ball to him on the stretch and hit the gas. Or try a jet sweep with him. Just tell him to hit the gas and go. All gas, no brakes. Need a creative OC to find a way to get him the ball in open space.
Bingo!!
 

NDNmom91

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I bet coaches are hard at work, including the OC to adjust things. Wouldn’t be surprised if some things change quickly. Putting Wuenschel back there is a great indication of more to come. A ‘power’ back who can throw on top of that. And as athletic as he is, he can catch the ball too. The opposing defensive coordinator will have a lot more to plan for.

At the end of the day the offense is NOT completely broken. Just need to mix things up a bit and take full advantage of the weapons. Coaches will figure out the plan.
Totally agree! The vanilla, predictable play calling with virtually NO adjustments up to this point in the season is VERY unusual and concerning but I keep telling myself…it’s POSSIBLE they’re just being EXTRA conservative with the playbook because we’re in a much tougher playoff bracket this year so they don’t wanna put too much on film! Or at least that’s my outlook from the warm and fuzzy “purple bubble” I live in, so I’m just gonna stay there cause it makes me feel better! :p
 

IndianFan

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To add more perspective, there are pro teams, as in the Dallas Cowboys who may be struggling more on offense. It’s not easy and no team is perfect.
 

Rez

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Gotta figure out a way to get the ball in Eli Washington’s hands. He’s too fast to be used solely on special teams. There’s one thing you can’t coach and that’s speed, he’s got plenty of it.
Is he #22? If so, he should be on the field every play. I’m tired of seeing our hardest worker on the bench.
 

IndianFan

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Hearing that some yahoo was stating that Montgomery recovered a fumble in the end zone on PNG’s first TD. If the uninformed, disgruntled one would look closely, they would see that PN-G’s #28 stands up with the ball after the play is whistled dead and TD signaled. No Montgomery player or any official behaved like a fumble was recovered by Montgomery because it was not. Regardless of the call being questionable or not, whether #15 or #28 is credited with the TD, Montgomery did not recover a fumble, and the TD call was correct. Complaint DOA.
 

Usedtocould

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FYI
Not to get anyone’s hopes up
And if he’s out he’s out

But one year Donovan McNabb played a few (or more) games with a fractured Fibula

It’s the little one on the outside that’s not really weight bearing

But individual cases are different.
 

tony79

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Hearing that some yahoo was stating that Montgomery recovered a fumble in the end zone on PNG’s first TD. If the uninformed, disgruntled one would look closely, they would see that PN-G’s #28 stands up with the ball after the play is whistled dead and TD signaled. No Montgomery player or any official behaved like a fumble was recovered by Montgomery because it was not. Regardless of the call being questionable or not, whether #15 or #28 is credited with the TD, Montgomery did not recover a fumble, and the TD call was correct. Complaint DOA.
Where did you find the "Hearing that some yahoo " remark?
 

Frodondn

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PNG is looking at the playoffs once again. Fans have posted that the offense seems to be out of sync this season.

I was in the stands and there was an instant positive fan base reaction when #4 went in as the WC QB. when #4 broke for that long aggressive 35 yard run down to the 5yd goal line fans were talking about PNG Offenses of the past two years and all appeared suddenly right with the offensive team.

I only wish that it hadn’t come about as the result of an injury to PNG outstanding RB #15.

Still think #11 and #4 are interchangeable at the WC QB position. #11 if you have a pass play called. Although #4 appears to be able to do all things. I think he parked my SUV before the game.

No reflection on our talented passing #9 QB who is not and should not be put in harms way as a running threat. #15 RB was exerting tremendous efforts on “busted” plays up the middle over and over again. Every PNG coach should be charting their own play calling tendencies. Opponents blitzing their LBs and DBs in gaps to disrupt the running lanes was posted by many PNG fans ahead of the NED game.

No need for trick plays. That pitch back in the Montgomery game went so high up in the air it should have brought rain. Lucky it was not caught by an opponent rushing LB or down lineman. Shred that play book.

No consistent short passing scheme has been developed. I am starting to think that PNG passing strategy of long 30-40 yard pass plays down field on third and long downs are actually intended to be “punts” where the receiver tackles the DB at the end of the route if pass is not catchable and there is an INT.
Tremendous pressure being placed on a talented #9 QB and #9 does not have the time in the pocket to launch accurate long passes into double coverages with ten in the box. But the story goes our “Supermen”offensive linemen should be able to over come being doubled team on these third and long downs. Ten in the box on these downs is a numbers game and the odds do not favor the offensive line. Ten in the box makes QB roll outs to launch these long passes down field not workable.

If you just have to pass with two minutes left in 2nd Q with a lead call for a quick short pass to the sidelines? Step out of bounds, Stop the clock. mix in the run, use your remaining timeouts to march down the field for a PNG FG attempt with no time on the clock at the end of the first half to potentially go up by two scores.

But a pass play 15 yards towards the middle of the field, both receiver and DBs standing flat foot at the end of that route, INT, and guess who kicks a FG at the end of the first half as time expires to change the momentum of the game.
Time to recognize Risk vs reward in those moments in the game. Which team benefits from a change in momentum towards the end of the first half? Do not ignore in victory what you would not in defeat. Trick plays and the few screen passes attempted this season look awkward do not look rehearsed or practiced. Throw away that napkin with the scribbled plays.
Lack of game situation awareness and ignoring personal play calling tendencies are what makes this Offense look out of sync. I have to take multiple naps now.
I have been saying Kase Thurston up the middle to loosen those LB's to help the RB. Kase can catch and has height
 

1989NDN

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I have been saying Kase Thurston up the middle to loosen those LB's to help the RB. Kase can catch and has height
Agreed. #88 has proven all year that he's reliable in the passing game. He can catch and run after the catch. They threw to the TE early in the season and then forgot about him. They called his number the other night vs. Montgomery and he made a nice catch for a TD. I hope they don't forget about him again. The other TE, #44, can make some plays, too.
 

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