Final: PN-G Indians 37, Montgomery Bears 31

[19PNGndn68]

Spot on. The slow developing runs and passes reduce the odds of success tremendously. Defenses have solved the Indian offense. More strategy and counter strategy is needed to keep drives going.

If you go into a fight intending to stand there and just slug it out, and the opponent recognizes your tendencies, knows how to block your punches and has others sneaking up behind you, you’re going to lose that fight.

Montgomery is very talented but lacks discipline. There was a reason they were 2-8 last year. They remind me of past Fort Bend Marshall teams. Superior D1 talent does not always translate to success. If Montgomery HC can instill discipline in their next game with NED, Montgomery has a chance to beat Nederland. HC spent more time ranting and raving with officials than focused on game. HC track record in big games does not support success. Watch out SOC PNG is back.

 

[1970]

Hearing that some yahoo was stating that Montgomery recovered a fumble in the end zone on PNG’s first TD. If the uninformed, disgruntled one would look closely, they would see that PN-G’s #28 stands up with the ball after the play is whistled dead and TD signaled. No Montgomery player or any official behaved like a fumble was recovered by Montgomery because it was not. Regardless of the call being questionable or not, whether #15 or #28 is credited with the TD, Montgomery did not recover a fumble, and the TD call was correct. Complaint DOA.

I missed that TD. Which NDN Press segment is the replay on? BTW, the person actually started a thread on the SETX site, and of course everyone is recognizing how ridiculous it is.
Also BTW, thanks again for the folks in attendance posting on here while NDN Press was having issues last Friday.

 

[Rez]

Yep, he’s the one

If he can’t catch, put him at corner. We need all the help we can get at that position. He tackles better and is faster than everyone we’ve had back there.

 

[RainyTX]

If he can’t catch, put him at corner. We need all the help we can get at that position. He tackles better and is faster than everyone we’ve had back there.

Absolutely, anytime an opposing player hits the corner on us…they’re gone. We done have the speed on the back end to catch anyone. He could but he’s sitting on the sideline. Our corners are also pretty short. 22 seems to be around 5’11 which is another benefit at that spot.

 

[IndianFan]

I missed that TD. Which NDN Press segment is the replay on? BTW, the person actually started a thread on the SETX site, and of course everyone is recognizing how ridiculous it is.
Also BTW, thanks again for the folks in attendance posting on here while NDN Press was having issues last Friday.

You can see that play here.

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[Rez]

Absolutely, anytime an opposing player hits the corner on us…they’re gone. We done have the speed on the back end to catch anyone. He could but he’s sitting on the sideline. Our corners are also pretty short. 22 seems to be around 5’11 which is another benefit at that spot.

We are missing courage and brute force at corner. Most plays, we’re literally playing with only 10 guys.

 

[Rez]

Absolutely, anytime an opposing player hits the corner on us…they’re gone. We done have the speed on the back end to catch anyone. He could but he’s sitting on the sideline. Our corners are also pretty short. 22 seems to be around 5’11 which is another benefit at that spot.

Also, #22 wants to hit people. He’s got heart and guts. We are desperately missing that.

 

[1970]

You can see that play here.

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Thaaanks! That guy on SETX is nuts.

 

[IndianFan]

Ball across line in posession of PN-G. Touchdown, every day of the year. No doubt.

 

[NDNmom91]

Plus, that play should’ve never happened in the first place cause it was pretty OBVIOUS the ball crossed the plane on at least one if not BOTH of the 2 previous attempts!

 

[19PNGndn68]

Gotta figure out a way to get the ball in Eli Washington’s hands. He’s too fast to be used solely on special teams. There’s one thing you can’t coach and that’s speed, he’s got plenty of it.

Concur. #22 (track man) currently lacks depth perception experience with deep balls. Receiver coach needs to set up a jugs machine and launch passes to allow #22 and others to gain that depth perception and closing angle to the ball.
The one pass attempt to #22 early in the season was a deep pass over the middle toward the goal line and #22 was wide open with his speed but ran parallel to the flight of the ball instead of closing on the ball. Coach had some choice words with #22 coming off the sidelines. No more pass plays to #22 since that incident.
Explains the lack of development and creativity of a complementary passing game.
Focus on the development of player skill sets and remove gaps in their game. Practice and more Practice breeds success. Complacency results in failure. Stop living off your past “ successes”. the team has to be developed and evolve. Outstanding receivers in 2022 and 2023 were not the result of extraordinary coaching but extraordinarily athletes. What are your accomplishments to date. what are your current development successes? Don’t tell me #11 is a result of your receiver coaching brilliance.

 

[19PNGndn68]

Totally agree! The vanilla, predictable play calling with virtually NO adjustments up to this point in the season is VERY unusual and concerning but I keep telling myself…it’s POSSIBLE they’re just being EXTRA conservative with the playbook because we’re in a much tougher playoff bracket this year so they don’t wanna put too much on film! Or at least that’s my outlook from the warm and fuzzy “purple bubble” I live in, so I’m just gonna stay there cause it makes me feel better!

I am still looking for that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. PNG offense is back tracking.
what you see is what it has become and what will end the season. Look at how awkward the few screen play attempts have looked and trick plays? Even an Absence of QB wide pitches to a trailing #15 RB in open space like the two pervious years, Playbook has contracted this season. Too much to grasp by whom?
What if Montgomery had not given PNG three short touchdown drives in the shadow of their goal line. Two fumbles and one drive aided by 35 yards in penalties. It could have been a blowout by Montgomery. A missed FG in Huntsville to send the game into overtime against an exhausted PNG defense. One inside PNG LB bliz miss and a lost in the LakeCreek game. We have used up all our fairy dust this year. Reality is about to set in. Need some shake ups now. the season is on the brink.

 

[IndianFan]

Concur. #22 (track man) currently lacks depth perception experience with deep balls. Receiver coach needs to set up a jugs machine and launch passes to allow #22 and others to gain that depth perception and closing angle to the ball.
The one pass attempt to #22 early in the season was a deep pass over the middle toward the goal line and #22 was wide open with his speed but ran parallel to the flight of the ball instead of closing on the ball. Coach had some choice words with #22 coming off the sidelines. No more pass plays to #22 since that incident.
Explains the lack of development and creativity of a complementary passing game.
Focus on the development of player skill sets and remove gaps in their game. Practice and more Practice breeds success. Complacency results in failure. Stop living off your past “ successes”. the team has to be developed and evolve. Outstanding receivers in 2022 and 2023 were not the result of extraordinary coaching but extraordinarily athletes. What are your accomplishments to date. what are your current development successes? Don’t tell me #11 is a result of your receiver coaching brilliance.

That’s a little harsh. A lot of passes have been dropped this year. Coaches don’t have hands in the game. Players execute the plays practiced and called, or they don’t.

“The things that we accomplished last year were accomplished because of the work that was done last year. To accomplish things like that, you have to do that same type of work. It’s not going to happen because it happened last year. It’s going to happen because you work for it, and that’s our mentality headed into the fall.”

- PN-G Head Coach Jeff Joseph

 

[1970]

I am still looking for that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. PNG offense is back tracking.
what you see is what it has become and what will end the season. Look at how awkward the few screen play attempts have looked and trick plays? Even an Absence of QB wide pitches to a trailing #15 RB in open space like the two pervious years, Playbook has contracted this season. Too much to grasp by whom?
What if Montgomery had not given PNG three short touchdown drives in the shadow of their goal line. Two fumbles and one drive aided by 35 yards in penalties. It could have been a blowout by Montgomery. A missed FG in Huntsville to send the game into overtime against an exhausted PNG defense. One inside PNG LB bliz miss and a lost in the LakeCreek game. We have used up all our fairy dust this year. Reality is about to set in. Need some shake ups now. the season is on the brink.

I understand your sentiment, but hopefully our season is not "on the brink", regardless if Montgomery comes through and beats Nederland. (I wish we had the MCM game back; we really should have beat them, even as bad as our game was that night, by at least a field goal.)
There are some things going on with the team, but Coach J. is on top of it.
A Nederland fan on another HS football site stated that in reality, any of the top 5 teams in our district could beat any of the other 4 teams on any given night. That's certainly true, but in reality I really think that PNG has the best team, regardless of how the wins came about or the loss to Ned, which was really a shame IMO.

 

[RainyTX]

Concur. #22 (track man) currently lacks depth perception experience with deep balls. Receiver coach needs to set up a jugs machine and launch passes to allow #22 and others to gain that depth perception and closing angle to the ball.
The one pass attempt to #22 early in the season was a deep pass over the middle toward the goal line and #22 was wide open with his speed but ran parallel to the flight of the ball instead of closing on the ball. Coach had some choice words with #22 coming off the sidelines. No more pass plays to #22 since that incident.
Explains the lack of development and creativity of a complementary passing game.
Focus on the development of player skill sets and remove gaps in their game. Practice and more Practice breeds success. Complacency results in failure. Stop living off your past “ successes”. the team has to be developed and evolve. Outstanding receivers in 2022 and 2023 were not the result of extraordinary coaching but extraordinarily athletes. What are your accomplishments to date. what are your current development successes? Don’t tell me #11 is a result of your receiver coaching brilliance.

Yes!!!!! Yes to all of this

 

[Usedtocould]

Coach Joseph plays for championships
Not to impress the fan base.

 

[Usedtocould]

Usually what the word “creative” means when describing offensive plays
All boils down to
DID IT WORK?
it’s easy to know after the fact whether something works or not

Also sometimes it’s not a series of single plays but the totality of all plays
I’m not a fan of punts but sometimes you run three times and punt and that’s a good strategy
Assistant coaches are somewhat like players The HC directs them and oversees their individual position training as well
If the HC sees deficits he diminishes that Assistant’s roles Just like a player

It’s all points on the board especially in modern times where penetrations don’t matter.

Look at Army football this year
None of us would have thought that system would put them on their best start since the 50s or better
A few mishaps from possibly being in the CFB playoffs
All my XO decisions and ideas carry very little weight except in my own imagination
All the coaches’ decisions carry weight and they’re aware of the responsibilities
The old cliche “No no no… YES YES YES!!” That every fan and coach has experienced shows it
Like me when I thought I knew football and proposed the idea to a more experienced friend “I think I could make money betting football”. He said something that saved me

“Why don’t you “fake” bet a few weeks and write it down and see how you do”
(With bet amounts etc)
Long story short I lost $1400 Imaginary dollars that week betting something on ALL games lol
That put an end to my imaginary betting career Things change when you have skin in the game and are accountable for your decisions

 

[IndianFan]

Ultimately it all comes down to the individual performances of each player. I don’t think the 2024 team is able to execute on the same level YET as last year. We don’t have Isaiah Nguyen, Shea Adams or Reid Richard who were all special players that made big plays on offense. Their skill and effort stood out. There is still hope and time to improve where needed. But at the end of the day, players will make the plays that win the game or not. There are still players making amazing plays. Consistency is still not there.

Cliches to follow. It takes 11 to do their job every play. A chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

 

[Usedtocould]

Hey
I was the assistant coach for the Ladybugs 4-5 y/o girls softball/tee ball team who proudly came in 4th
So you’re not talking to an amateur here lol
(I have more than that but that’s the funniest example)

 

[Usedtocould]

I harken back to the most valuable advice I later gave as the HEAD COACH of the dragons 4-5 y/o co-Ed soccer
They’ll never forget my valuable advice

“You’re going the WRONG WAY!!!”

And

“NO you’re shooting at OUR GOAL”