Philip Klein's Take On PN-G Job Situation

modmouse78

100+ Posts
the post that i had was 100 % true. i can get court papers to back up everything that was said. Funny that it was edited though.
 

akifan94

500+ Posts
kfdmcoop said:
From Philip Klein's blogsite:

Talk about in your face? And maybe even a lawsuit before it is all over? <start drums> How about those dang Indians over at Port Neches?

The story is simple. A long time football coach quits. So everyone applies for the job to the Port Neches Groves school board. The applications are put into a ranking and on and on.

So the media wants to know who applied. Any normal district says - well here are the names. But not Port Neches Groves. They violate almost every law that can be violated by telling the media no. You cannot have the list. So how do they do it? By doing the old end around and asking the AG for an opinion. That stops the process for at least six weeks and then when the AG comes back and tells them to release the names they will after they have selected the new head coach.

But wait! There is more!

By doing such they stall the media and stop any suggestion of any negotiation for any school district that may want to keep their coach by making the pot sweeter.

Now for the question - does this open the door for the district to be sued. And we just do not know the answer to that. However, seemingly it is a bad deal for the politicos on the school board. What are they hiding? Who knows? Who is behind it all? Who knows? Is it legal what they are doing? heck yes. Is it what should happen in a free and open government? No. But remember - it is Port Neches where football is king.

And making it even more funny - it has taken the eyes off the ball as they say. No media is reporting that the old coach is staying on with his whopping huge salary and now they will add on ANOTHER huge whopping salary.

Ah yes - bigger is better. And there is nothing like more corruption and manipulation of the law in the most corrupt county in Texas!

Applicants - please apply and your name will not be released.

Really - we thought that no elected board could get lower than what goes on in Port Arthur or the Jefferson County Courthouse.

Opps....we were wrong.


pot meet kettle
 

Smurf

Active Member
modmouse78 said:
the post that i had was 100 % true. i can get court papers to back up everything that was said. Funny that it was edited though.

Yea...call my house phone too!
 

akifan94

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Smurf said:
modmouse78 said:
the post that i had was 100 % true. i can get court papers to back up everything that was said. Funny that it was edited though.

Yea...call my house phone too!

lol.........that only works when the other person knows the number. ;D
 
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NDNPARENT

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Smurf said:
1989NDN said:
Who is Philip Klein and why should anyone care what he says on an Internet blog? PN-GISD and the communities of Port Neches and Groves will survive regardless of what Mr. Klein, The Beaumont Enterprise, The Beaumont Examiner, The Port Arthur News, or anyone over at setxsports.com writes or says. The majority of PN-G alumni, fans, and residents are concerned about PN-G and what is best for the students and communities of Port Neches and Groves. Most in the PN-G family are not concerned with Internet blogs, local newspaper op-ed pieces, or the traffic hits on regional sports websites.

Go Indians. Peace.

I totally agree. A search of this board finds the same few "concerned" citizens posting their "concerns" on every board they can. Get over it. We need to be speculating on the talent our school board recruited rather than what laws the "concerned citizens" think were broken. The media will bash us as much as possible until they get the information they want...it's their job. I am starting to realize the few "concerned citizens" out there bashing the school board for their decisions are actually "concerned" because of previous issues. Any day now we are going to see the following post:

Do you like the school board? Check YES _____ OR NO_____



so you are ok if this scholl board breaks the law, and tell you to bend over and take it ? hmmmm..
 

Smurf

Active Member
NDNPARENT said:
Smurf said:
1989NDN said:
Who is Philip Klein and why should anyone care what he says on an Internet blog? PN-GISD and the communities of Port Neches and Groves will survive regardless of what Mr. Klein, The Beaumont Enterprise, The Beaumont Examiner, The Port Arthur News, or anyone over at setxsports.com writes or says. The majority of PN-G alumni, fans, and residents are concerned about PN-G and what is best for the students and communities of Port Neches and Groves. Most in the PN-G family are not concerned with Internet blogs, local newspaper op-ed pieces, or the traffic hits on regional sports websites.

Go Indians. Peace.

I totally agree. A search of this board finds the same few "concerned" citizens posting their "concerns" on every board they can. Get over it. We need to be speculating on the talent our school board recruited rather than what laws the "concerned citizens" think were broken. The media will bash us as much as possible until they get the information they want...it's their job. I am starting to realize the few "concerned citizens" out there bashing the school board for their decisions are actually "concerned" because of previous issues. Any day now we are going to see the following post:

Do you like the school board? Check YES _____ OR NO_____



so you are ok if this scholl board breaks the law, and tell you to bend over and take it ? hmmmm..

OK...let me decipher this. scholl = school and tell=tells. No offense to our gay people on this board, NDN PARENT, but to answer your question, no I would not bend over and take it from the school board. I'm still not sure how the last line of your post pertains to anything in this discussion. You have some issues if you feel like the school board can bend you over. Either that... or you were fishing for an answer you might...ugh, I think I need to take a shower now.
 

akifan94

500+ Posts
NDNPARENT said:
Smurf said:
1989NDN said:
Who is Philip Klein and why should anyone care what he says on an Internet blog? PN-GISD and the communities of Port Neches and Groves will survive regardless of what Mr. Klein, The Beaumont Enterprise, The Beaumont Examiner, The Port Arthur News, or anyone over at setxsports.com writes or says. The majority of PN-G alumni, fans, and residents are concerned about PN-G and what is best for the students and communities of Port Neches and Groves. Most in the PN-G family are not concerned with Internet blogs, local newspaper op-ed pieces, or the traffic hits on regional sports websites.

Go Indians. Peace.

I totally agree. A search of this board finds the same few "concerned" citizens posting their "concerns" on every board they can. Get over it. We need to be speculating on the talent our school board recruited rather than what laws the "concerned citizens" think were broken. The media will bash us as much as possible until they get the information they want...it's their job. I am starting to realize the few "concerned citizens" out there bashing the school board for their decisions are actually "concerned" because of previous issues. Any day now we are going to see the following post:

Do you like the school board? Check YES _____ OR NO_____



so you are ok if this scholl board breaks the law, and tell you to bend over and take it ? hmmmm..

No law has been broken. There is not a law saying the school must release it. The FOI has not reached it's 10 days yet that are allowed by law. So which law is broken?
 

Smurf

Active Member
akifan94 said:
Smurf said:
modmouse78 said:
the post that i had was 100 % true. i can get court papers to back up everything that was said. Funny that it was edited though.

Yea...call my house phone too!

lol.........that only works when the other person knows the number. ;D

Couldn't resist...that post was hilarious!
 

IndianFan

Administrator
kfdmcoop said:
That was out a week ago, they have a final 2 Finalists now.

Point is they released the list on their own schedule after they had narrowed it down to Shipley and the other guy as finalist.
 

modmouse78

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Here is more of what i was talking about.

http://setxbayou.blogspot.com/2008/06/true-lies-why-you-shouldnt-practice.html
 
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NDNPARENT

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my bad on the spelling.. fingers flying on the keyboard.

to me most of the ppl on here has no problems of what decision that the board makes, how they treat the public .. i for one do not think i am better than other ppl. i am a humble person,

and i have lived in this community for over 45 yrs and like most ppl i hate paying taxes and it getting wasted, not just the PNGISD but also the city and county taxes. people in this area work too hard to have others spend you money foolishly.

my problem with the board is that they do not know everything but they act like they do and when a suggestion comes to help to spend the money wisely , they turn a cold shoulder on you. The board is suppose to represent the people that elected them , but they do not, they do not get feedback , survey or get a general feeling of what the people wants. I know we are not the only school district that has this mentality , PAISD is another and the list can be long. I could care less who we hire as a football coach or any other position, i just have a problem with the board being all arrogant.
 

tribesman

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Here's my take on the situation (for what it's worth)... I have experienced in the past that nothing irks the media more than someone trying to buck them on an FOI request. This really seems to push their buttons. Now I feel that this is turning into more of a pi$$ing match than anything else. Many people are curious as to whose names are on that list, I am one of the curious. But, I have to feel that there is a rhyme or reason to this madness. I also feel that if we as Indian fans are patient, then we will get a better coach because of it. I think we will learn in the near future why the Board chose to " go this route". I know that it is never a good idea to "take the law into your own hands", so to speak, but all that I care about as an Indian is getting the best possible coach to bring this program to an elite level. In no way is this a dig at Coop or any media members that post here, it's just one unimportant opinion.
 

NONS81

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tribesman said:
Here's my take on the situation (for what it's worth)... I have experienced in the past that nothing irks the media more than someone trying to buck them on an FOI request. This really seems to push their buttons. Now I feel that this is turning into more of a pi$$ing match than anything else. Many people are curious as to whose names are on that list, I am one of the curious. But, I have to feel that there is a rhyme or reason to this madness. I also feel that if we as Indian fans are patient, then we will get a better coach because of it. I think we will learn in the near future why the Board chose to " go this route". I know that it is never a good idea to "take the law into your own hands", so to speak, but all that I care about as an Indian is getting the best possible coach to bring this program to an elite level. In no way is this a dig at Coop or any media members that post here, it's just one unimportant opinion.

A good rationalization... ;D
 

bandkid

Moderator
Staff member
tribesman said:
Here's my take on the situation (for what it's worth)... I have experienced in the past that nothing irks the media more than someone trying to buck them on an FOI request. This really seems to push their buttons. Now I feel that this is turning into more of a pi$$ing match than anything else. Many people are curious as to whose names are on that list, I am one of the curious. But, I have to feel that there is a rhyme or reason to this madness. I also feel that if we as Indian fans are patient, then we will get a better coach because of it. I think we will learn in the near future why the Board chose to " go this route". I know that it is never a good idea to "take the law into your own hands", so to speak, but all that I care about as an Indian is getting the best possible coach to bring this program to an elite level. In no way is this a dig at Coop or any media members that post here, it's just one unimportant opinion.

I disagree. I think the opinions important, and completely agree.
 

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