Next Game: PNG vs Texas High

[1970]

I can't add to what's already been said here, or to what I've already said on the other SETX site. Need good intensity like last Thursday, good pass rush, limit the motion penalties, etc. I like being the underdog in this one, and hope that the Nederland comparison sticks in their heads.
Some of our guys have been stepping up lately, and I like that. I wish like heck that I could be there, but I'll be watching on line instead. But I'll make a deal, if we win this one, then I'll be at the next one, Hell or high water.

 

[1970]

I can't add to what's already been said here, or to what I've already said on the other SETX site. Need good intensity like last Thursday, good pass rush, limit the motion penalties, etc. I like being the underdog in this one, and hope that the Nederland comparison sticks in their heads.
Some of our guys have been stepping up lately, and I like that. I wish like heck that I could be there, but I'll be watching on line instead. But I'll make a deal, if we win this one, then I'll be at the next one, Hell or high water.

And btw, if we win this one then I think that we'll be playing Marshall. Marshall will beat SOC I think.

 

[Lonestar JR]

Speaking of attendance. Fan attendance can very well make a difference in this game. Both teams are good and this game will likely be decided by "the little things". A full PNG house could be the "Shock and Awe" that tilts the game for PNG. Turpin stadium seats only 15,971. It would be awesome if 8,000 Indians sshowed up. If PNG doesn't win this game there will be no more chances to show off the Indian Spirit this year. That would be a shame beacause there is nothin else like it in High School Footbal. Call as many fans as you can and emphasize how important this game is. Trade shifts with non-PNGers, lean on your bosses to let you off early and do whatever else is necessary to show up. The PNG football team can't see or feel you if you aren't at the game. (I have been a PNG Indian since 1955 and I hope the Indian Spirit goes on and on and on.}

 

[IndianFan]

This game should have been played on a Saturday.

 

[1989NDN]

Speaking of attendance. Fan attendance can very well make a difference in this game. Both teams are good and this game will likely be decided by "the little things". A full PNG house could be the "Shock and Awe" that tilts the game for PNG. Turpin stadium seats only 15,971. It would be awesome if 8,000 Indians sshowed up. If PNG doesn't win this game there will be no more chances to show off the Indian Spirit this year. That would be a shame beacause there is nothin else like it in High School Footbal. Call as many fans as you can and emphasize how important this game is. Trade shifts with non-PNGers, lean on your bosses to let you off early and do whatever else is necessary to show up. The PNG football team can't see or feel you if you aren't at the game. (I have been a PNG Indian since 1955 and I hope the Indian Spirit goes on and on and on.}

Very well said!!!

 

[NDNmom91]

Something to remember about Nederland. The Bulldogs had a 4+ hour bus ride to that game. The Tigers had a thirty minute drive or less from the house. Very different than this situation where both teams will be making a 2-3 hour trip.

Basically, what it comes down to is Nederland brought their absolute BEST game into The Rez to pull off the biggest MCM upset in a LONG time and left it there…LITERALLY!! We’ve seen that happen many times over the years! That’s WHY it’s called Mid County MADNESS! Nederland just had NO fight left in them when they rolled into Texarkana emotionally deflated after back to back losses and drained from a 7 hour bus ride!! Meanwhile, the INDIANS have continued to improve, stayed FOCUSED on the MISSION and prepared to give TX High all the FIGHT they can handle and then some!!

 

[IndianFan]

Can't read the article because it's behind a pay wall, which I was unable to 'scale', but here's the story headline in the Texarkana Gazette.

Prep Football: Area champ Texas High romps to set up clash with defending state champ Port Neches-Groves​

Prep Football: Area champ Texas High romps to set up clash with defending state champ Port Neches-Groves | Texarkana Gazette

TEXARKANA, Texas -- From the opening whistle Friday night, Texas High wasted no time showing why it's one of the top-ranked teams in Class 5A, Division II.

www.texarkanagazette.com

 

[Xcrystalbeachbum]

Can't read the article because it's behind a pay wall, which I was unable to 'scale', but here's the story headline in the Texarkana Gazette.

Prep Football: Area champ Texas High romps to set up clash with defending state champ Port Neches-Groves​

Prep Football: Area champ Texas High romps to set up clash with defending state champ Port Neches-Groves | Texarkana Gazette

TEXARKANA, Texas -- From the opening whistle Friday night, Texas High wasted no time showing why it's one of the top-ranked teams in Class 5A, Division II.

www.texarkanagazette.com

Burned a dollar to activate a sub and the only mention of PNG was Next up for the Tigers is Port Neches-Groves, a team with championship pedigree and plenty of firepower.

 

[IndianFan]

Basically, what it comes down to is Nederland brought their absolute BEST game into The Rez to pull off the biggest MCM upset in a LONG time and left it there…LITERALLY!! We’ve seen that happen many times over the years! That’s WHY it’s called Mid County MADNESS! Nederland just had NO fight left in them when they rolled into Texarkana emotionally deflated after back to back losses and drained from a 7 hour bus ride!! Meanwhile, the INDIANS have continued to improve, stayed FOCUSED on the MISSION and prepared to give TX High all the FIGHT they can handle and then some!!

It happens. Remember 1999 when Nederland was ranked in the top 5 or 10? They were expected to dominate in that game. PNG dominated instead and continued to win until week 16.

This 2024 PNG team has what it takes to go all the way again.

 

[bulldawg64]

Remember well lol!

 

[Ace]

Does anyone know what TH fan base is like

Lifelong Texas High fan here. (Also with a cousin who is a PNG grad). TH fan base is strong, but admittedly is no match for the PNG fanbase that is legendary in Texas high school football. There are 3 high schools on the Texas side of town. All 3 are still alive in the playoffs. Liberty-Eylau (3A) and Pleasant Grove (4A) play on Friday afternoon, so there will not be any opportunity for the fan bases to join forces to support a Texarkana team. PNG fans will outnumber Texas High fans by a substantial margin.

Responding to a couple of comments on this thread. First, regarding the Texas High-Arkansas High game. It was discontinued primarily due to the fact that it was no longer competitive. Arkansas High has fallen on hard times and is much smaller than it was. It does neither side any good to have a rivalry game 50-0 at halftime. That leads to fights motivated by frustration. Safe call was to just not play the game anymore. Really sad. It also means that Texas High loses a local game and has to replace it with a long road trip to DFW or northwest Arkansas.

Grim Stadium. Yes seating is approximately 7500. The band and students do not sit on the "home" side. They take up approximately 40% of the visitors side, leaving the entire west stands for Tiger fans. Still one of the best places in the state to watch a game. No track. Minimal distance from concrete stands to the sideline. Concrete stands rise at steep angle to create a "cavern" effect. Horrible for band, drill team and cheerleaders. Great for fans watching a football game. Low in the stands you hear every conversation between coaches and officials and players.

Great old story about Earl Campbell being asked about the hardest hit he ever took playing football. His answer: The concrete wall at Grim Stadium in Texarkana.

 

[IndianFan]

Lifelong Texas High fan here. (Also with a cousin who is a PNG grad). TH fan base is strong, but admittedly is no match for the PNG fanbase that is legendary in Texas high school football. There are 3 high schools on the Texas side of town. All 3 are still alive in the playoffs. Liberty-Eylau (3A) and Pleasant Grove (4A) play on Friday afternoon, so there will not be any opportunity for the fan bases to join forces to support a Texarkana team. PNG fans will outnumber Texas High fans by a substantial margin.

Responding to a couple of comments on this thread. First, regarding the Texas High-Arkansas High game. It was discontinued primarily due to the fact that it was no longer competitive. Arkansas High has fallen on hard times and is much smaller than it was. It does neither side any good to have a rivalry game 50-0 at halftime. That leads to fights motivated by frustration. Safe call was to just not play the game anymore. Really sad. It also means that Texas High loses a local game and has to replace it with a long road trip to DFW or northwest Arkansas.

Grim Stadium. Yes seating is approximately 7500. The band and students do not sit on the "home" side. They take up approximately 40% of the visitors side, leaving the entire west stands for Tiger fans. Still one of the best places in the state to watch a game. No track. Minimal distance from concrete stands to the sideline. Concrete stands rise at steep angle to create a "cavern" effect. Horrible for band, drill team and cheerleaders. Great for fans watching a football game. Low in the stands you hear every conversation between coaches and officials and players.

Great old story about Earl Campbell being asked about the hardest hit he ever took playing football. His answer: The concrete wall at Grim Stadium in Texarkana.

Texas high school football at it’s finest.

 

[Usedtocould]

Lifelong Texas High fan here. (Also with a cousin who is a PNG grad). TH fan base is strong, but admittedly is no match for the PNG fanbase that is legendary in Texas high school football. There are 3 high schools on the Texas side of town. All 3 are still alive in the playoffs. Liberty-Eylau (3A) and Pleasant Grove (4A) play on Friday afternoon, so there will not be any opportunity for the fan bases to join forces to support a Texarkana team. PNG fans will outnumber Texas High fans by a substantial margin.

Responding to a couple of comments on this thread. First, regarding the Texas High-Arkansas High game. It was discontinued primarily due to the fact that it was no longer competitive. Arkansas High has fallen on hard times and is much smaller than it was. It does neither side any good to have a rivalry game 50-0 at halftime. That leads to fights motivated by frustration. Safe call was to just not play the game anymore. Really sad. It also means that Texas High loses a local game and has to replace it with a long road trip to DFW or northwest Arkansas.

Grim Stadium. Yes seating is approximately 7500. The band and students do not sit on the "home" side. They take up approximately 40% of the visitors side, leaving the entire west stands for Tiger fans. Still one of the best places in the state to watch a game. No track. Minimal distance from concrete stands to the sideline. Concrete stands rise at steep angle to create a "cavern" effect. Horrible for band, drill team and cheerleaders. Great for fans watching a football game. Low in the stands you hear every conversation between coaches and officials and players.

Great old story about Earl Campbell being asked about the hardest hit he ever took playing football. His answer: The concrete wall at Grim Stadium in Texarkana.

They replaced that wall
Made a ton of changes
Very nice now
Sad that we lost one of the best natural turf surfaces in existence

 

[Usedtocould]

Lifelong Texas High fan here. (Also with a cousin who is a PNG grad). TH fan base is strong, but admittedly is no match for the PNG fanbase that is legendary in Texas high school football. There are 3 high schools on the Texas side of town. All 3 are still alive in the playoffs. Liberty-Eylau (3A) and Pleasant Grove (4A) play on Friday afternoon, so there will not be any opportunity for the fan bases to join forces to support a Texarkana team. PNG fans will outnumber Texas High fans by a substantial margin.

Responding to a couple of comments on this thread. First, regarding the Texas High-Arkansas High game. It was discontinued primarily due to the fact that it was no longer competitive. Arkansas High has fallen on hard times and is much smaller than it was. It does neither side any good to have a rivalry game 50-0 at halftime. That leads to fights motivated by frustration. Safe call was to just not play the game anymore. Really sad. It also means that Texas High loses a local game and has to replace it with a long road trip to DFW or northwest Arkansas.

Grim Stadium. Yes seating is approximately 7500. The band and students do not sit on the "home" side. They take up approximately 40% of the visitors side, leaving the entire west stands for Tiger fans. Still one of the best places in the state to watch a game. No track. Minimal distance from concrete stands to the sideline. Concrete stands rise at steep angle to create a "cavern" effect. Horrible for band, drill team and cheerleaders. Great for fans watching a football game. Low in the stands you hear every conversation between coaches and officials and players.

Great old story about Earl Campbell being asked about the hardest hit he ever took playing football. His answer: The concrete wall at Grim Stadium in Texarkana.

I can’t say for sure
But I suspect the discontinuation of Texas /Arkansas was that Norton he HC of THS lfired after winning the schools first state championship
Then immediately hired at Arkansas High.

 

[1989NDN]

Lifelong Texas High fan here. (Also with a cousin who is a PNG grad). TH fan base is strong, but admittedly is no match for the PNG fanbase that is legendary in Texas high school football. There are 3 high schools on the Texas side of town. All 3 are still alive in the playoffs. Liberty-Eylau (3A) and Pleasant Grove (4A) play on Friday afternoon, so there will not be any opportunity for the fan bases to join forces to support a Texarkana team. PNG fans will outnumber Texas High fans by a substantial margin.

Responding to a couple of comments on this thread. First, regarding the Texas High-Arkansas High game. It was discontinued primarily due to the fact that it was no longer competitive. Arkansas High has fallen on hard times and is much smaller than it was. It does neither side any good to have a rivalry game 50-0 at halftime. That leads to fights motivated by frustration. Safe call was to just not play the game anymore. Really sad. It also means that Texas High loses a local game and has to replace it with a long road trip to DFW or northwest Arkansas.

Grim Stadium. Yes seating is approximately 7500. The band and students do not sit on the "home" side. They take up approximately 40% of the visitors side, leaving the entire west stands for Tiger fans. Still one of the best places in the state to watch a game. No track. Minimal distance from concrete stands to the sideline. Concrete stands rise at steep angle to create a "cavern" effect. Horrible for band, drill team and cheerleaders. Great for fans watching a football game. Low in the stands you hear every conversation between coaches and officials and players.

Great old story about Earl Campbell being asked about the hardest hit he ever took playing football. His answer: The concrete wall at Grim Stadium in Texarkana.

Welcome Ace! What’s the low down on the THS defense?

 

[Usedtocould]

I BELIEVE
Arkansas High was the Razorbacks
BEFORE university of Arkansas (they were the Cardinals until around 1910

And in exchange for letting them use Razorbacks UofA would let AHS have their old used equipment like helmets and jerseys etc.
more interesting “facts” about the wild and wonderful town of TXK
I SAY facts I’m not 100% sure this is right but I believe it to be (I reserve the right to be wrong) ha

 

[tony79]

Looks like it's going to be a bit chilly at the game. Perfect football weather, maybe?

 

[IndianFan]

Lifelong Texas High fan here. (Also with a cousin who is a PNG grad). TH fan base is strong, but admittedly is no match for the PNG fanbase that is legendary in Texas high school football. There are 3 high schools on the Texas side of town. All 3 are still alive in the playoffs. Liberty-Eylau (3A) and Pleasant Grove (4A) play on Friday afternoon, so there will not be any opportunity for the fan bases to join forces to support a Texarkana team. PNG fans will outnumber Texas High fans by a substantial margin.

Responding to a couple of comments on this thread. First, regarding the Texas High-Arkansas High game. It was discontinued primarily due to the fact that it was no longer competitive. Arkansas High has fallen on hard times and is much smaller than it was. It does neither side any good to have a rivalry game 50-0 at halftime. That leads to fights motivated by frustration. Safe call was to just not play the game anymore. Really sad. It also means that Texas High loses a local game and has to replace it with a long road trip to DFW or northwest Arkansas.

Grim Stadium. Yes seating is approximately 7500. The band and students do not sit on the "home" side. They take up approximately 40% of the visitors side, leaving the entire west stands for Tiger fans. Still one of the best places in the state to watch a game. No track. Minimal distance from concrete stands to the sideline. Concrete stands rise at steep angle to create a "cavern" effect. Horrible for band, drill team and cheerleaders. Great for fans watching a football game. Low in the stands you hear every conversation between coaches and officials and players.

Great old story about Earl Campbell being asked about the hardest hit he ever took playing football. His answer: The concrete wall at Grim Stadium in Texarkana.

I second the welcome Ace. Should be an interesting battle. No one is taking the Tigers lightly. Neither should the Indians be overlooked. The core is still there from last year. The outcome will probably come down to who executes best.

 

[Bordertown]

Second Tiger fan to Grace your message board. I have respect for the history of PNG. In my opinion, this is the best Tiger team since they won state in 2002. PNG is the state champion until someone knocks them off. That is the Texas High challenge this Friday. I have watched the Huntsville and Nederland game films. The following are my observations:
1) Both teams have very good OL and DL lines. It will be a good test for both teams. We will see which is better. The Texas High line has created running lanes for some talented backs and protected Potter in the passing game.
2) I was impressed by the power of #15 and quickness of #26. Hopefully #15 is good to go Friday. I was equally impressed with the Nederland RB, but Texas High did a good job containing him. Texas High has 3 rb options. Johnson (#4) is the starter and has commited to SFA. When he needs a rest Ball (#3) or Moore relieve him. Ball a junior has committed to Oregon.
3) Where I think the teams differ the most is in the passing game. I give the edge to Texas High. Potter has a 68% completion rate and spreads the ball to 4 receiver. He has only thrown one interception. Each in their own way are play makers. It appears the weakness in the PNG defense is their secondary. The secondary of Texas High is a strength With 18 nits. In watching PNG games, the Indians seem to rely on #11. I personally did not see a balanced passing attack.
4) Potter is a “pro style” QB. At 6’4” and about 225#, he is a big kid. The offensive line has given him very good protection. As the Tigers have a very efficient running game, he is not called on to run. But he is not a statute. He can run if the opportunity arises. It will be interesting to watch if PNG can pressure him and contain the run.
5) The same wall Earl Campbell met in the 70s at Grim is still there. The improvement is there is now padding on the wall.

One thing for sure, Friday will he an interesting game. The winner will have to earn it. Friday is what high school football is all about.

 

[Ace]

Welcome Ace! What’s the low down on the THS defense?

Not sure that I have the low down on the T-High defense, but I do have an amateur opinion that this is the best defense we've had in many years. Really athletic. Really mobile. Really fast. Several years ago there was a maddening weakness in the secondary. A couple of times a game they would blow coverage and allow a receiver to run free. That has not happened with any regularity this year, although early in the year Fayetteville was able to repeatedly make big plays against the defense.

#90 Duncan McGhee, a junior,, is one to keep an eye on in the defensive front. Plays interior DL. About 6'4", 265. Offers from SMU, TCU and others. Moves really well. Defensive ends are tall and lean. Not real heavy. The linebackers are super active but smallish. Secondary has been really solid. I am no coach, but in my opinion the defense is structured to stop spread offenses.

If I were going up against this defense, I would do just what several on this forum have suggested. That is, try to play old school smash mouth football. Run the ball between the tackles and grind out first downs, and then use play action or a downfield shot at opportune times. Marshall played most of the game attacking in that fashion and had good success with it for significant stretches of the game. Nederland tried it, but could not do it successfully. If PNG's offensive line can control the line of scrimmage and the Indians can grind out first downs and keep the Tigers' offense on the sideline, I expect this to be a tough, tight game.

But really, what do I know? Maybe this turns into a 55-54 big play score fest. We'll all show up and watch the kids lay it on the line and play hard and see who comes out on top. Should be fun.