IMPORTANT: June 16th School Board Meeting in Groves
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Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
If you ask me Faircloth and his staff are way under paid as well as the teachers. These men and women put in a lot of their on time with no pay to educate and teach our children about life. Maybe Big Cav can take pay cut from his 130k+ salary. I see most of the coaches at every sporting event. May see Big Cav at just a couple.
If you ask me Faircloth and his staff are way under paid as well as the teachers. These men and women put in a lot of their on time with no pay to educate and teach our children about life. Maybe Big Cav can take pay cut from his 130k+ salary. I see most of the coaches at every sporting event. May see Big Cav at just a couple.
png fan for life
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Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
Just and fyi. Faircloth and most of his staff will be at this meeting tonight. Please come and show your support.
Just and fyi. Faircloth and most of his staff will be at this meeting tonight. Please come and show your support.
Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
Putting them 4,000.00 more than coaches that live here.
School board approves wages and SHOULD NOT require them to pay back the years of being overpaid by the 4,000.00 amount
Yes, as I was told by a png teacher/coach it is over a 4,000.00. Moving bonus new out of town coaches got that was supposed to be one tome only expense but the payroll office forgot and they have been receiving it every year they are here.png fan for life said:
Putting them 4,000.00 more than coaches that live here.
School board approves wages and SHOULD NOT require them to pay back the years of being overpaid by the 4,000.00 amount
IndianFan
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Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
Wow, that's a huge oversight, and a difficult circumstance. As in a corporate environment, it becomes a very touchy situation. From an accounting/payroll standpoint, it's clear cut. But from a PR/morale point of view, the individuals have good reason to be hacked off. I guess the big question is, did they realize the oversight?
And is the business/district willing to take some responsibility for the mistake. If not, that could be a substantial lump sum. At the very least, it could be handled like a no interest loan.
Wow, that's a huge oversight, and a difficult circumstance. As in a corporate environment, it becomes a very touchy situation. From an accounting/payroll standpoint, it's clear cut. But from a PR/morale point of view, the individuals have good reason to be hacked off. I guess the big question is, did they realize the oversight?
And is the business/district willing to take some responsibility for the mistake. If not, that could be a substantial lump sum. At the very least, it could be handled like a no interest loan.
Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
Any correlation with no area coaches from this area are not new coaches in our system?
Sure it will be in the papers tomorrow.
Best of luck with this bs we are dealing with
Let's just win a state championship.
No more questions . Winning answers all questions
Don't know the particulars, but agree not right for local coaches not getting the 4 grand like the others.IndianFan said:
Any correlation with no area coaches from this area are not new coaches in our system?
Sure it will be in the papers tomorrow.
Best of luck with this bs we are dealing with
Let's just win a state championship.
No more questions . Winning answers all questions
Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
In an attempt to hear the whole story about the stipends, I contacted Darren McCutcheon (409 960 1325 and he gave a verbal to give name & number)and this is what he had to say, Quotation:
In February 2009 when Coach Faircloth hired his first two assistants (Cary & Kroeker) it was realized that they would have to take a pay cut to coach @ PNGISD. Coach Faircloth was told by admin. that a $4000.00 moving expense could be attached to their salary. It was soon discovered that this would not be feasible and he (BF) needed to attach additional duties to their job description. For example, JDC was named the Assistant HC but also was given the OL as an additional duty. Coach Faircloth then requested that any coach receiving the $4000.00 stipend should have their contract attached to his. In other words if BF was to leave or be dismissed then every coach tied to his contract would also be let go unless PNGISD chose to retain/protect said coach. The legality of this has been challenged lately but the latest opinion is that it is perfectly legal and is practiced by other school districts. End quotation. At the beginning of the meeting the Assistant Superintendent said that these Stipends are included in BF's current budget. Being he is the AD, it should be his decision whether or not to award this stipen to a coach for extra duties. So my question is.... why did 2 board members want to take these stipends away immediately??? All of this crap is causing alot of stress on our AD and his staff and is uncalled for. I mean, really? 4 out of 5 years in the playoffs AND all because of a measly $12,000.
In an attempt to hear the whole story about the stipends, I contacted Darren McCutcheon (409 960 1325 and he gave a verbal to give name & number)and this is what he had to say, Quotation:
In February 2009 when Coach Faircloth hired his first two assistants (Cary & Kroeker) it was realized that they would have to take a pay cut to coach @ PNGISD. Coach Faircloth was told by admin. that a $4000.00 moving expense could be attached to their salary. It was soon discovered that this would not be feasible and he (BF) needed to attach additional duties to their job description. For example, JDC was named the Assistant HC but also was given the OL as an additional duty. Coach Faircloth then requested that any coach receiving the $4000.00 stipend should have their contract attached to his. In other words if BF was to leave or be dismissed then every coach tied to his contract would also be let go unless PNGISD chose to retain/protect said coach. The legality of this has been challenged lately but the latest opinion is that it is perfectly legal and is practiced by other school districts. End quotation. At the beginning of the meeting the Assistant Superintendent said that these Stipends are included in BF's current budget. Being he is the AD, it should be his decision whether or not to award this stipen to a coach for extra duties. So my question is.... why did 2 board members want to take these stipends away immediately??? All of this crap is causing alot of stress on our AD and his staff and is uncalled for. I mean, really? 4 out of 5 years in the playoffs AND all because of a measly $12,000.
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Also, come to find out, we have 4 less coaches than Nederland does. And Coach BF who is our AD/ Head Coach, also has the title of QB coach unlike our neighbors across the tracks HC. So my question remains.... Why are a couple of board members causing stink about this unless they have their own agenda????
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Also, come to find out, we have 4 less coaches than Nederland does. And Coach BF who is our AD/ Head Coach, also has the title of QB coach unlike our neighbors across the tracks HC. So my question remains.... Why are a couple of board members causing stink about this unless they have their own agenda????
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IndianFan
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Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
PN-G HS has had a disadvantage in coaching numbers for years. Burnett dealt with the same problem.
I think both communities probably support Faircloth 100%. A few thousand dollars to maintain a good coaching staff and athletic program should not be an issue. have they forgotten how much money the football program alone brings in? Not to mention that it's the pride of the community.
Everyone better stand behind Faircloth, or the years of having an exciting program will likely come to a premature end. There are plenty of programs that will gladly support Coach Faircloth and his staff.
PN-G HS has had a disadvantage in coaching numbers for years. Burnett dealt with the same problem.
I think both communities probably support Faircloth 100%. A few thousand dollars to maintain a good coaching staff and athletic program should not be an issue. have they forgotten how much money the football program alone brings in? Not to mention that it's the pride of the community.
Everyone better stand behind Faircloth, or the years of having an exciting program will likely come to a premature end. There are plenty of programs that will gladly support Coach Faircloth and his staff.
TexasTech84
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Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
IMO, if two board members are creating all this ruckus, first who are they? And second when is our next school board elections. By now whomever this two board members are, realize how much community support coach BF has behind him. With all this, I feel they will reconsider all they have done and take a step back. If they don't , come election time they will be gone. So tribe, where can we find out or who can we call to get the names of this two members.
IMO, if two board members are creating all this ruckus, first who are they? And second when is our next school board elections. By now whomever this two board members are, realize how much community support coach BF has behind him. With all this, I feel they will reconsider all they have done and take a step back. If they don't , come election time they will be gone. So tribe, where can we find out or who can we call to get the names of this two members.
Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
The community has been given the chance to remove these 2 during recent board elections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUESS WHAT??? They got voted back in!!!! I've stopped complaining about them because I felt I was the only one who felt they needed to go!!
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TexasTech84 said:
The community has been given the chance to remove these 2 during recent board elections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUESS WHAT??? They got voted back in!!!! I've stopped complaining about them because I felt I was the only one who felt they needed to go!!
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Re: May 12th board meeting in Groves
If you were at the board meeting on Monday you would have witnessed these two board members attempt to have the $4,000 stipends taken away from these coaches effective immediately.
Why don't we show these two board members how we feel about those who don't support our coaches?
If you were at the board meeting on Monday you would have witnessed these two board members attempt to have the $4,000 stipends taken away from these coaches effective immediately.
Why don't we show these two board members how we feel about those who don't support our coaches?
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5A DII BI-DISTRICT
PN-G Indians (9-1)
vs.
Hallsville Bobcats (4-6)
Friday, Nov. 15, 7:00PM
PN-G INDIANS FOOTBALL
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